Saving Souls

And I have had four kids and I gained weight on all my pregnancies, which you should.  You know, I mean, you have nine months to make a healthy baby.  And my body went right back down.  And, see, the truth is that God doesn’t even see us.  We’re hidden in Christ.  And the things that the world tries to get us to look at are not the things He looks at.

 

RR: Well, Lisa, the reason I asked you to give this testimony tonight is because I sense in my spirit that there are a lot of people that are watching tonight that are suffering in this area of their life.  Maybe it’s anorexia or bulimia or it’s some other type of disorder, eating disorder or other type of disorder.  And you are a living testimony of what God did and obviously is still doing, because you’re completely delivered from it now.  A marriage and four children later, and you obviously have had a great miracle.

 

God has healed your metabolism.  He’s healed your habits, your food habits.  He’s healed you all the way over.  And I think that if you would pray that there would be people who would receive a healing in that area of their lives tonight.  I’d like you to just take your freedom and pray.

 

L: I would love to do that.  Father, I just thank You right now. You know who you are and you know what was said to you that made you think that you are what you weigh.  But you’re not what you weigh.  You’re not what you have and you’re not what you look like and you’re not even who you see.  You are somebody so precious and so valuable.  And right now I break the words and I break the curses that have been spoken over you.  I break the chains of bondage that caused you to reduce yourself to a number on a scale.

 

And in the name of Jesus, Father, I thank You that the stronghold of anorexia and bulimia is broken off of the lives of so many women, in the name of Jesus.  Lord, You said that You abhor an unjust scale.  Lord, I thank You that You would establish a righteous measure for these women.  Lord, I thank You that You would establish them in righteousness and joy and peace.  And I come against that spirit that would try to get them to destroy themselves, in the name of Jesus.

So if a person says, “I’ll forgive them when they come and say I’m sorry,” they’re holding on to unforgiveness, which will eventually develop as a root of bitterness, which will fuel sickness and disease.  And we’ll get into that in a minute. But the reason a person cannot forgive is because they’ve forgotten what they’ve been forgiven of.  We deserve now let me tell you what you and I deserve, every one of us we deserved hell.  When Adam sinned against God, the Father could have looked at the Son and said, “They disobeyed us.  They chose the devil.  Let them all ago to hell.  We’re going to go over and create another universe and create somebody that really loves us.”  But God chose, when we didn’t deserve it, to send His Son. And Jesus left glory and came, and He died on the cross for us when we did not deserve it.

 

Now a Christian that does not realize what he’s been forgiven of as a Christian doesn’t have a revelation of hell.  I wish every believer could see hell for 30 seconds.  I know three people personally that have been to hell.  One friend is a pastor in the Caribbean.  He died, was dead 45 minutes, and went to hell.  His dad took him to a church, but he wasn’t a believer. He went right to the entrance of hell.

 

When he told my wife and I about it that one night, I’m telling you, the fear of God hit me.  And I was thanking God that the Holy Spirit revealed Jesus to me.  He said, “John, I have never experienced fear.  There is no fear in this earth like that.  There is no torment on the earth like that.”  And yet he was brought back, and today he’s pastoring a great church.

 

Well, we have to understand God freely forgave us from that. That’s what we deserve.  So a believer that cannot forgive is a believer that’s forgotten what we’ve been forgiven of. The worst sin that I can think of on the face of this earth, Richard and Lindsay, is child molestation.  Now if you can think of something worse, you tell me, but I can’t think of one worse. As horrifying as that is when an adult physically abuses a child, as horrifying as that is, that is nothing compared to hell.  If that’s what that child deserved, that’s what you deserved, that’s what I deserve, but yet Jesus forgave us.

Hell is available on every corner.  But there are those who are looking to God because God has the original supernatural. I’ve got news for you.  Satan is an imitator.  God has the original supernatural. The Bible says in Matthew 14 that Jesus went forth, He saw a great multitude, He was moved with compassion toward them, and He healed their sick.  Jesus went forth.  Jesus was always going somewhere to heal somebody.  He was either on His way to heal them, or He was there healing them, or He was on His way to heal somebody else.  Jesus was like a wrecking crew against sickness and disease.  I mean, he was after sickness and disease.  He was hot on their heels.  Wherever sickness and disease was, that’s where Jesus was.  He went forth.

 

The Bible says He saw a great multitude.  Well, He saw a crowd.  There’s a crowd here.  There’s a crowd watching around America, Canada, and other nations, even on the Internet tonight. But let me tell you, He sees more than a crowd.  He sees you, He sees you, He sees you right where you live.  He knows your name, He knows what you’re going through, He knows what you’re facing, He knows the circumstances, and He has healing.  He’s rising with healing in His wings for you tonight.

 

He went forth.  He saw a great multitude.  He was moved with compassion.  I’ve often wondered what compassion is.  I was reminded a few moments ago, Lindsay, about my father as he was praying there.  Compassion, the word compassion I remember my father once said to me, “Compassion is that irresistible urge that comes inside you to rid the person of whatever the problem is.”  It’s when that irresistible thing comes up inside you and makes you want to drive that thing out, no matter what it is. That’s what compassion is.  I feel that compassion in me.

 

Why a live healing program?  Because the compassion of Jesus is in me.  Because I want to see you healed from the crown of your head.  I want to see you well in every area of your life from your hair to your toenails in the authority of Jesus’ mighty name.  I want to see you well!  That’s why.  I’m moved with compassion.  The Bible says He healed their sick.

 

And all of them, virtually all of them, whether they’re preachers or not, have a healing compassion in their heart.  And I thank God for Oral Roberts University.  It’s a wonderful academic institution with bachelors and masters and doctors’ degrees.  And I’m very proud that God chose you, my son, to be the president, the second president, and the second first lady after the first lady, Evelyn.

 

LR: A good example.

 

OR: I’m very proud of you, Richard and Lindsay.  I have complete confidence in you that ORU will remain the same, on the same foundation, the same honor code, the same healing emphasis, the same excellence of higher education, and educating the children of our people who believe and who have prayed for a university that was first-class all the way, and now they have Oral Roberts University.

 

RR: Stand over here by Lindsay, Lester.

 

OR: Let me say just one word to the thousands and hundreds of thousands of Partners, hundreds of thousands of Partners

 

RR: Come in here, Lindsay.

 

OR: who have made this possible?  Without you it could not have been built.  We spent over $400 million to build this whole enterprise here for the glory of God.  You provided that, and you’re providing the extra that it takes to keep it going.

 

RR: That’s right.

 

OR: Because the students can never pay as much as it takes to operate.  And I thank every Partner, every friend, whether you sent one gift or ten gifts or a hundred gifts, or if you’re still doing it.  Thank you in Christ’s name and God will multiply your seed back.

 

RR: Now Dad and Mother and Lindsay, I want one of our currently enrolled students to join us tonight in prayer as we close.

 

OR: Oh, that’s Lester Sumrall’s grandson.

 

RR: This is Dr. Lester Sumrall’s grandson

 

OR: Who was one of my best friends?

 

RR: Lester, who is a currently enrolled student at

 

OR: One of my best friends

 

RR: ORU.

 

OR: Dr. Lester Sumrall.

 

RR: We have lots of outstanding ministers’ children and grandchildren who have enrolled at ORU and have graduated and many who are students.  He and his cousin His cousin is on our basketball team.  And I want him to stand with us as we close tonight in prayer.

 

OR: This is the preacher boy.

 

LR: Yes.

 

OR: This is the one. Let me touch you.  Jesus, just double your healing power to flow through his ministry, the double portion of his grandfather, Lester Sumrall, and give him some of my portion in Jesus’ name.  Amen.

 

ER: Halleluiah.  Praise God.  Glory.  Halleluiah.

 

RR: Father, in the authority of the name of Jesus, we bless you and thank You for all that has been accomplished in this program.  We thank you for your healing touch in people’s lives tonight.  We lay our hands on the requests of everyone who has called in the Abundant Life Prayer Group just since we went on the air tonight. We lay our hands on them and we command the devil to take his hands off your life. Thank You, Father.  There are three generations of healing ministry right here.  There is your generation, there is my generation, there’s Lester’s generation, all of us joining together in the authority of the name of Jesus, believing for the power of God to come alive in your life.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS You cannot out give God.  And when you give, will you expect God to multiply it back to you in the way you need it most?  Or you can just sit down and write me a letter, Richard Roberts, Tulsa, Oklahoma. Or Richard Roberts, Toronto, Ontario, if you live up in Canada.  Lots of people in Canada are watching this program now.  Our program is on up in Canada.  And you can sow a seed.  And when you do, expect God to multiply it back.

 

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS And He won’t just multiply with money, which is

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Oh, He multiplies it in the way you need it most.

 

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS Exactly.  You see, if you need friends perhaps, family, the love of people

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Healing.

 

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS Healing.

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Relationships.

 

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS I’m dying to play that piano.

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, I want to know how your fingers are?

 

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS Does this exercise program do anything for the fingers?

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Listen, I told you that everyone, everyone other television programs just let you play, they don’t let you talk.  I’m not going to let you play, I’m just going to let you talk.  No, I want you to go to the piano

 

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS Why?

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Because I want to see if your fingers are all right after coming back from Haiti.

 

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS I’m working on a new album right now and I spent 16 hours it’s a wonder I didn’t walk on this set with a piano stool attached to my, you know.  But anyway, the other day I was working 16 hours and I split this finger right here.  And I’ll tell you, something, there’s a healing power in this place because my finger is feeling wonderful and I think I’m going to play with everything I’ve got right now.

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Would you go to the piano?

 

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS Yes, I would love to.

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Take this microphone off, because I’m not going to let you get off this program without letting the people hear Dino Kartsonakis at the piano.  Give him a good handclap. You’re in for a real treat.

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Dino Kartsonakis at the piano.  Come back over and join us, Dino. Give him a good handclap.

 

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS Oh, wow

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS I think your fingers are all right.

 

SPKM DON POTTER As long as he’ll keep practicing, that’s all.

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS That’s right.

 

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS That song, “Oh How I Love Him,” how old is that?  I mean, that’s been around for years.

 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Very, very long time.