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Getting into the Word of God

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BT:  That’s right.  It’s no longer a …………… about what you don’t have or what’s not right with you.  We’ve got to do self-examination.  And so often I tell people, “Don’t worry about what somebody else is saying or doing.  Do as Jesus did.”   Jesus said, “I only do those things which my Father commands me to do,  and  I only say those things which my Father tells me  to  say.”  And the only way you can do that is by getting into the Word of God.

And as we get into the Word of God, we will begin to think about what we want to say because God is going  to  hold  us  accountable  for every word we say.  And we’re living in a time now that people even in the world are demanding excellence and demanding holiness, they are demanding uprightness and moralness and integrity.  They’re no longer … even if you’re unsaved, they’re no longer going to allow you to represent them.  We see this throughout the political arena.

They will no longer allow you to represent them in an ungodly way, even though they may not be ungodly themselves.  They are looking for those standards. And when you see excellence it brings security. Just like the first time we stepped on this campus, and that was in 1979, we’d heard so much about ORU.  And then when we stepped on this campus, it was as if we had stepped into heaven according  to what we believed, you know, to look like.  And everybody we would talk   to over the years have said the same thing.   The ministry represents the spirit of excellence.  And whatever you represent is what you’re going to produce.

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God move so mightily


RR:  You tried to kidnap… you tried …

LR:  I tried to take her home with me.

BT:  We have one that will fit in with your three.

LR:  That’s exactly right.   That’s true.   It’s true.   Majesty equals the three of them.

BT:  Well, we’ve already received just wonderful praise reports about the miracles and the great things that God is already doing here at ORU this year.   Our students have told us about the increase in the enrollment and so many of them was telling us how they could not have come back if they had not received scholarships and how God miraculously made provisions.  And we just pray for the university, you know, because we know what   you’re doing is making an impact on this world, literally,

LR:  It’s an incredible thing to go into a church like your church and see the power of God so strong, see God move so mightily.   And see kids that come from the nursery all the way on up and then they get college age and go to a secular university and lose everything that you have spent all that time putting into them.   It’s a sad thing to take the kids who are really worshipping and praising the Lord and then at a certain age when they’re ready for college, go lose it all.  And that’s what the world tempts them with.   And they’re out on their own and they’re doing things they might not do in another environment, and I praise God for the kids that you sent at ORU.  We take good care of them, I think.

BT:  Well, we know that.

RR:  Well, this is a church  that  focuses  in  on  the  women  and focuses in on the men and focuses in on the young  people,  focuses in on the children, through the Word of  God.   Now I appreciated that.  I know because I’ve been there.  I’ve seen it with my own eyes.  Lindsay has been a part of a great women’s conference and I had an opportunity to be a part of a great men’s conference.   I know their program for the young people.  And if you’re  in  that area of the country, you ought to stop by  Christian  Faith  Center some Sunday and just see for yourself in … what did you say?

BT:  Of Creedmore.

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God of a second chance


MT:  Well, thank you, Richard and Lindsay.  It’s wonderful  to  see  what God is doing here as well as in your life and how he’s raised you both up to go forth and he’s packaged you for display, and that means where others will look upon you in order that  they  may  see Him.  And so you are transmitting … not only transmitting by way of television, but transmitting by your lifestyle the signal  of Christ.

RR:  Well, when we see you,  Brenda,  when  we  see  you  and  your husband on television, and we see you quite often, you’re always up there, you’re preaching, you always  have  a  good  positive  word, you’re not preaching  against  anybody  or  preaching  against  … you’re always preaching for something.  And I admire that because that’s the way I was raised.  My dad taught me  as  I  was  raised, “Don’t preach  against  something  or  somebody.   Instead, preach Jesus.”

BT:  Yes, yes.  Well, that’s the thing that we have admired about you two over the years as we have watched the television program. We sort of saw ourselves because you were  so  real,  you  were  so transparent, and it’s always been our desire just to  be  for  real for God and let people see  that  we’re  not  perfect  but  we  are reaching toward perfection and that we’ve  made  some  mistakes  in life but we’re not  going  to  stop  at  those  failures  or  those mistakes.  We’re going to pick ourselves up and  go  on  and  share with other people the good news of Jesus because  God,  as  you  so often say, is the God of a second chance, and a third  chance,  and fourth chance, and a fifth chance.

Richard Roberts : Continually.  Lindsay, did you know they have students from their church that are right here on this campus right now?

LR:  Yes, amen.

RR:  They’re enrolled in ORU.

LR:  Amen.  They do.  And they’ve got four coming up getting ready for ORU.  They’ve got the cutest child on the  face  of  the  human earth named Majesty, and she acts like it.

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His Creation

CT: You know, the best thing that I can think of, Richard, is when one just literally let himself or herself bathe in the knowledge of God’s love, to really get to understand who God really is. And now who we want Him to be, but who He really is.  And let Him really come into our lives.  We began to see the beauty of His creation.  We began to understand that He has placed a bit of himself in every living, breathing creature.  And when we embrace brothers and sisters who may not look like us, what we are really doing, we are embracing the best of what God has made.  And that’s the unity that David was talking about.  It’s just like a precious ointment.  And satan has no desire for us experience that precious ointment.  But I think we have the opportunity to do so.

RR: He doesn’t want us to get along, Lindsay.  He wants us to be in disharmony.  He wants us to be in strife.  He wants us to hate one another.

LR: Well, again, remember what I said last night when Jesus said, “My peace I leave you, my peace I give you”?  That word peace translates oneness and wholeness.  He left us whole, He left us His oneness, His wholeness.  But many times we don’t even know it’s there. And I know coming from Oral Roberts University, you know, we all look back on our lives and say, “How did we get here from where we were?”  And you came in banking, you worked at University Village.

RR: Out of the military.

LR: out of the military, and now you’re up for a Pulitzer prize. Your book that you birthed kind of at ORU was made into a movie, and instead of walking around thinking that you’ve made it to the top, you’re reaching down to serve.  What an example of Jesus Christ.

CT: I mean, that’s the requirement that God places on all of our lives.  How can we take these gifts that He gives us and share them with the world, whether one writes, sings, ministers, or whatever?  Those are His gifts, they’re not ours.

LR: The bottom line is to share it with each other.

CT: To share it.

RR: Cliff, you could have chosen you could have made a decision in your mind that you were not ever going to get over what you went through in your youth.  You could have decided, “I’m going to strike back.  I’m going to write, but I’m going to write a message of hatred, of violence, of unrest.”  But instead you chose a message of peace and healing. And I want to ask you to do something tonight.  I want to ask you to pray because there are many people in this country who are hurting tonight over something that happened to them in some relation.  And I want to ask you if you’ll just pray and just open your heart as the Lord leads and pray over the needs of the people.

CT: You know, Richard, the Bible says, “Blessed are the peacemakers.” And I want to write peace because when we find peace, we can find a way to maneuver through many of the things that come into our lives.  And as a writer, I’ve been able to travel places that I never dreamed I’d go, but I’ve been able to take, hopefully, the peace of God with me.  And I want my brothers and sisters, no matter where they are, to understand that peace is a gift, that God gives a gift to be shared.  And I would welcome the opportunity to pray that they would know that

RR: Please do, Cliff.

CT: Lord, we thank You for every person that You have given life to, that You have given the opportunity to face twenty-fours that they have never seen before.  We thank You that You have given us ideals that we can practice in our daily lives.  We thank You that You’ve given us the ability to live beyond racism, to live beyond hatred, as we find ourselves walking into Your kingdom and into Your love. But any person, Lord, who does not understand just where they fit in the kingdom, help them this night to know that Your love is sufficient, totally capable of moving mountains and giving peace.  Give them peace, Lord, that passes all understanding.  In Your name we pray, amen.

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God has blessed us

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, but you’re doing more than that, Dino. You’re getting involved in bringing medical help to the people through the hospital.  Now I understand your vision because, as you well know, that’s what our vision is, to take medical missions to the nations of the earth.  So I understand what you’re talking about.

SPKM DINO KARTSONAKIS You know, for years people have seen me play the piano and perform and wear all these wonderful outfits, etc., you know, and they say, that guy has got it made and he goes from one auditorium to the next, one church to the next, you know, and perform every night in spotlights and what have you. But there’s so much more to it.  You know, as Christians it’s not just an entertaining element.  We are to minister. We are called as missionaries and I am called.  I am called and I have a burden on my heart.  Glad Tidings Tabernacle, the little church I was born and raised at in New York City, that’s still there on Toidy-toid Street, you know, in New York City.

We had a pastor that had a mission’s heart and I was raised with a missionary heart. And again, not just till recently were we able to go down at the Haitian Community Hospital.  And I flew in midnight last night, took five flights to get here.  I must really love you, Richard.  And, anyway, I got here.  Cheryl and I arrived and we feel refreshed this morning with a victory in our hearts because we handed to them a check for $32,000 to complete the wing of that hospital, the radiation department.  And we praise God for that and for people who have given like this letter right here, it’s so inspiring.  God has blessed the United States of America because of people like this who have given from their hearts, that’s why God has blessed us.  And He will continue to bless us if we continue to give.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS And when you open up your heart and when you give, then the Bible says God responds to your giving.  Now He describes how He responds to SR02 your giving.  The Bible says when you give, He will open you the windows of heaven and He will pour you out a blessing where there shall not be room enough to receive it.  And He will rebuke the devourer, the devil, for your sake. I’ve got good news; God does not need the devourer rebuked.  You and I are the ones who need the devourer rebuked.  And whenever I face a situation, Don and Dino, where I need the devourer rebuked, and the first thing I think of is that Scripture where God told me what to do.  He said, “When you give, I will open you those windows of heaven.”  Whenever I feel like my windows in heaven and I’ve got windows up there and so do you and so do you whenever I feel like my windows are shut, I realize that God didn’t shut them, I did.

And I realize if I want them open I’ve got to give.  And then when I need the devourer rebuked, I know that when I give, God’s going to do it because His SR03 Word is true.  God’s Word is true, He cannot lie.  The Bible says, “He is not a man that he should lie.” God has given us a formula and when we work with His formula, then He multiplies it back to us.  And like this person said, I want to double my giving. He said, “I want to double my giving every year.”  And I just got a letter from a man in Philadelphia who had just sown a very large seed for our medical mission’s project.  And he said to me, “I’ve got a problem.”  And I thought, you know, I’m ready to pray.  And he began to laugh.  And I said, “You’re laughing, but why are you laughing, you say you have a problem?”  He said, “I have a problem.

Every time I give money to you, I get money back.”  And I said, “Well, what’s the problem?”  He said, “I just gave you this large gift.”  I said, “Yes, I know.”  He said, “The Internal Revenue Service just contacted me and told me that I have a tax refund for almost three times what I gave you, unexpected.”  He said, “My problem is, when I give you money I get more money back than I know what to do with.”  I said, “Well, I can alleviate you of some of that problem.”  But you cannot out give God.


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